Ja, ok, truth is that i don't know what kind of program has been used for creating the app. So, i maybe look for to much without questioning in what program has been written. Then why people are not using C++? As far as i have seen is not very hard to learn (for a programmer). Or at least to use the pure qt programmer... Java is known to be kind of sucky with symbian. I mean, with 3650, java games were running ok, with 6600 still ok, and so on, but after n70 i never downloaded a java game, laggy as s**t. Also with 5230, and still facing problems with s^3, no java game for me, especially the ones created ad hoc.